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danie (Signed) on Sep 21, 2008 05:20 pm (the end.)
that really sucks with what happened with you. i wouldn't have known about it if i didn't try to find one of your stories and it wasn't here. despite all the drama i hope you get your stories out there on some other site or your own. i'd still like to read it b/c the two stories i was reading were really good.



calinewgirl (Signed) on Aug 20, 2008 06:11 am (the end.)

Actually law student, only 2 of the 5 examples laid out fit the true definition of plagiarism - examples #4 and #5. That doesn't devalue Tia's claim at all, but it definitely lessens the certainty level of it.

Have you yet studied mass communications law in your course work? In the first 3 examples, only 1 contained a similarity to the original source - the ending result of an action/actions taken by the character. That ending result being a broken mirror. No one owns the idea/use of a broken mirror in literature, so unless the actions leading up to the final result are the same, then the route to that specific result is NOT the same, i.e. NOT plagiarized.

Example #2 doesn't even have any similarities - dialogue, sentence structure, word usage, etc. In TW, the captive feels that the assailant is staring at her, but she neither provides any proof of that feeling to herself or to the reader, nor is she given any proof by an omniscient narrator. In IOM, the narrator tells the reader that the assailant is staring at the captive. The narrator even expounds on the assailants true inner feelings/desires toward the captive. None of that is the same/similar at all. The scenes themselves aren't even the same. I'm actually at a loss as to why this "example" was even used since it's such a baseless and weak example.

The 3rd example (#3 on the list), isn't even actual text from either literary source. The sentence structure/word usage is the same because both are plot summaries made by a singular third party! It's someone's interpretation and even if there is actual proof in both literary works to back up that interpretation, it wasn't listed anywhere in the argument therefore the entire interpretation is thrown out. That's really law. It's never what you feel or think you know, it's what you can prove without a reasonable doubt.

One more thing, Smrrks probably got defensive in her final statement because she felt wrongfully attacked/accused. That's usually why ppl get defensive in the 1st place lol. Whether or not you believe she is guilty, you can't knock her for getting defensive when she clearly stated she feels she is innocent. She simply disagrees with her accusers and probably feels backed into a corner due to the public nature/display of this witch hunt. People usually lash out in instances such as this.

And if we're really asking for honesty here, even you have to admit that Tia gravely lacked tact and cooth when dealing with this situation. If she saw that Smrrks was replying to reviews but not her email, why not write Smrrks a review herself notifying her of the email she sent and the lack of response it had garnered? Probably because either she didn't want/feel the need to repeat herself, didn't want to try that hard to get the attention of someone she already deemed guilty, or she simply didn't care enough to. Yet, after days of feeling ignored, she types up and codes an entire web page devoted to this incident/discrepancy for all to see? Where's the consistency there? She either did care enough, did want to repeat herself, and/or did want to try that hard to get the attention of someone she already deemed guilty ... she just wanted everyone to know about it too. That's neither professional nor mature.

Somewhat sounds like an irresponsible use and abuse of ownership power to me or at the very least, mean ... but whatever. The example was made and I'm sure now no one will ever attempt to "plagiarize" here again. Job well done I guess.

~ N (Sorry that was so long, but I needed to say it all.)




sandy (Signed) on Aug 18, 2008 12:59 am (the end.)
I liked your story too and think you are a great writer, but after reading the excerpts side by side from both stories...(which is posted here http://nsync-fiction.com/plagiarized.html) how can u really deny it? It's not inspired similarity, its almost word for word with different synonyms and word arrangement. Lets just be honest and then there is no harm no foul. No one said it was intentional, maybe you didn't realize you did it, but to still deny it and say they are just similar. Come on...Your response is so defensive."Me thinks thou doth protest too much" I'm a law student, and that is plagarism plain and simple. I've studied cases where lawsuits have been won and paragraphs were no where near as similar as yours. Tia doesn't deserve this witch-hunt for protecting fictionlyn's work. Every writer here should appreciate that she cares to look out for you guys like that.



Britney (Signed) on Aug 16, 2008 07:05 pm (the end.)
Wow, the audacity of people who think they have power when really they don't know what they're talking about or how to run things professionally. I wish you luck and hope to read your stories in the future. Nicely explained.



alimera (Signed) on Aug 16, 2008 08:41 am (the end.)
Sorry to see you go girlie, I'm going to miss all your amazing stories! Can you please post your website so those of us who do appreciate good writing can continue reading it? Pleeeeeeeeeeease? Lol.



MochaB (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 10:56 pm (the end.)

this accusation is all kinds of stupid. i haven't read fictionlyn since i first started reading fanfic many, many years ago. ok, so people were kidnapped in both. that doesn't make it all the same. how many different ways can you write a kidnapping/escape scene, especially when ideas are taken from real life? authors do it, movie and television directors do it, anybody that creates art does it. based off of this, so many movie directors should be accusing other directors of plagiarism right now.

i've seen plenty of stories, especially from writers that are just starting out in this fanfic scene, that all seem the same. sound the same. same plot. basically same everything, but they aren't taken down. yet one of the most talented writers that *nsync fanfic has seen has to resort to this due to these accusations? people act like fictionlyn and her stories are God and the Bible of fanfic. you honestly think that her ideas just came out of nowhere? from no real life events that she has read or watched about? this is in no way an attack on her. i'm just trying to make a point. years ago, yes i thought she was great, but looking back on her stories, they really aren't all that wonderful. it seems to be blown up just because she was one of the firsts.

and as somebody already said, unless you copied and pasted from her story into yours, then i don't see a problem. if they want to do this because plagerism was implied based off of similarites, then this whole archive needs to shut down because every story has been plagiarized. i'll definitely get that link from the replies and find your site and stories because you are one of my favorite authors and i absolutely love your stories. you know that from my replies. haha. i'm glad you will continue to write though. i'll be on the look out for your work. :o) 




mzmillion (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 10:19 pm (the end.)
I've read some of your other stories and they were great....I loved them. I'm not going to lie and say I didn't think the TW was extremely similar to IOM in what was posted but it was... so I don't know what to think. I am sad that you wont be around because you write very good and I loved the other stories of yours I've read.



MissTasha (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 08:42 pm (the end.)
I really loved your story and I'm sorry to see you go. :(



a_nonymous (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 08:06 pm (the end.)
I don't really think it's fair that everyone has to lose out on all of your other stories just because of one incident. Thanks for telling us and not just disappearing, but if you could at least provide a link to where we could find your stuff it would be greatly appreciated.



Babytaz (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 05:55 pm (the end.)
I'm sad to hear that your leaving the archive because your stories always grabbed my attention right away and I always became hooked.  Let me know if your gonna continue with yellow brick on a different website cause I was loving that story already.



Peaches (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 03:50 pm (the end.)
Sucks it had to be this way. People are just weird about everything. But we all know you didn't copy anybody's work. Let me know where you're going to host your new stuff at. :)



d_simplicity (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 12:49 pm (the end.)
Smrkks I love your work and I was lost and sad when I learned of this. It's not fair when so many stories in truth are so similar to others. Maybe even my stories are similar to others too who knows? Plagerism is only if something is word for word and I know your work wasn't like that. I miss TW already because I was looking forward to catching up when I came back. *sigh* But don't ever stop writing and let us know when you do something new! and where can i read the rest of your stuff? I know RB and how to save a life is hosted by ashley right? So, I'll read those. Anyway take care mama. :-)



vec2004 (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 11:53 am (the end.)
Wow. I can't believe how this all went down. I'm very sorry you were treated this way. I absolutely love your work. It would make my day when I would check this website and see that you updated. Your stories are high quality and so good. I'll just have to start checking for updates at a different site. Please let us know where we can go!



nikoleoncld9 (Anonymous) on Aug 15, 2008 11:23 am (the end.)
This is the direct link to Ready...Break. I think you can get to her main from there.

http://ashley.inthearmsof5angels.com/rb/



lostinadreamx (Signed) on Aug 15, 2008 10:54 am (the end.)
I'm really sad to see you go. You're extremely talented. Do you have a site where we could continue to read your work?





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